Well now I had a lot of people who are saying, well, they stumbled on beyond racial gridlock and things of that nature. George Yancey: And one of the reasons why I think I got away was I thought, well, I've said this, you all do it if you want to, don't do it if you don't want to, I got other things to do. And when I got back, it was like people were reaching out to me in a way that hadn't happened over the past 15, 16 years. And I just felt, and also not just shook me up, I sort of pulled away from just social media and the news for a little while. And so the events, the George Floyd, the murder of Arbery, those events kind of shook me up. I had made that Cardinal mistake, which is saying I'm never going to talk about race again and I've discovered in my life and when I say never to God, that God has funny ways of making me, like I was never going back to school after I got my bachelor's degree and here I am with the professor, I'm doctorate. George Yancey: As far as why I got back into it I guess, the year 2020 to shook me into it. And so why not go and study those things? And for me, I needed to separate myself from race so that I can really focus in on some other things that had really caught my attention. There are other things that was very interesting to me. So I felt like I had nothing really left to say. George Yancey: I just did not want to be one of them. And they just said the same thing again and again. And there's certain scholars who said the same thing again and again, they just get different data sets. George Yancey: Yeah, so I think about 15, 16 years ago, I just came to the conclusion that I've said everything I had to say on race. Why did you stop and why have you taken up the subject again at present? And then as you describe it in this current book, you stopped writing about race. You wrote two great books on race about 10, 15 years ago. Scott Rae: Now, in your book, you start out your book in a really transparent way, because you talk a bit about your own personal journey in writing about race. Yancey thank you so much for joining us for part one of this conversation. He's published widely, published on race and religion and lots of other topics in his field of sociology. He spent many years at the University of North Texas before going over to Baylor. George Yancey is a professor of sociology at Baylor University. It's a super insightful, very I think, very encouraging, very hopeful book entitled Beyond Racial Division: A Unifying Alternative to Colorblindness and Antiracism. Yancey on before, not that long ago and he's back because he has a brand new book that's out that we want to spend a lot of time talking about. Scott Rae: We're here with our guest, Dr. Sean McDowell: And I'm your co-host Sean McDowell, professor of Christian apologetics. I'm your host Scott Rae, dean of faculty and professor of Christian ethics. A podcast from Talbot School of Theology here at Biola University. Scott Rae: Welcome to Think Biblically, conversations on faith and culture. His books include Compromising Scholarship (Baylor University Press) a book that explores religious and political biases in academia, What Motivates Cultural Progressives (Baylor University Press) a book that examines activists who oppose the Christian Right, There is no God (Rowman and Littlefield) a book that investigates atheism in the United States, and So Many Christians, So Few Lions (Rowman and Littlefield) a book that assess Christianophobia in the United States. He has published several research articles on the topics of institutional racial diversity, racial identity, academic bias, progressive Christians and anti-Christian hostility. George Yancey is a Professor of Sociology at the Baylor University. Join Scott and Sean for this stimulating two part conversation.ĭr. He provides a way forward that includes collaborative conversations and a mutual responsibility model that could overcome the shortcomings of both colorblindness and antiracism approaches. Rejecting both the notion of colorblindness and antiracism, Baylor University sociologist George Yancey outlines a path to genuine racial reconciliation.
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